Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
I feel so embarrassed. I almost fell for the scam until I did a search for the following university in the e-mail that Mariya (email@example.com) was sending me:Irkutsk Humanitarian University. That's when I found your excellent site. Of course she has not asked for money yet but I am going to play along and see what she says. I used a fake name of Jay to e-mail her. I have attached her pic too. She sent me nearly 5 pics. I send her my photo just 2 days ago and could not recall the e-mail in Yahoo. Anyway, next time I am going to search on the key words and google them before I fall for a scam again. Thank you so much for your site and the info it contains. But I am planning to play along and see how far she gets.
On 2007-03-13, 17:24:55 'hidden ' from united States asks 'Is this real or is it a scam'?
THIS is most definitely 'SCAM'. This girl's photos are on many anti-scam sites including here
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anonymous from China
On 2007-03-13, 17:24:55 'hidden ' from united States asks 'Is this real or is it a scam'?
THIS is most definitely 'SCAM'. This girl's photos are also on this Page, scroll up to this post last November, 2006-11-23, 13:04:24. DO NOT SEND MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NEVER MET This image was also posted here: Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
[hidden] from Warnervale in New South Wales, Australia
I am not sure if this one is a scammer but if it is, here's her his its letter, she hooked me by posting her self in an australian online dating site, she stated in her profile she lived in Victoria australia because she could not choose her own country Russia, nor her city of Kirov. She has provided me with pics of her mom cousin and male person but did not refer to him (father) when she named the people in the pic. She even has an australian email adress.
Pretty shifty hey, anyway Im fine I guess cause I was just searching for a partner who lived in australia, no way Im going through all the trouble to bring her over, good luck guys and let me know if you've been also hooked by the same.
Hi Johnny? ! I am happy to receive your message, it gives me
understanding that you have to me interest also. Johnny?, we shall
continue our acquaintance - ok? In this E-mail, I wish to tell about
myself in more detail. I live, together with the parents in city
Kirov. It in average part of Russia. In my profile the name of the
city another and country too. Possibly I should apologize in you for a
small secret. At creation my profile. Computer of service of
acquaintances did not accept Russia. It either the mistake of the
program or service of acquaintances works not with all the countries.
Reason of creation profile on a site of acquaintances. I could not
find in Russia of the man with whom I would like to have family, here
men can not care of family, and in Australia the people which live can
care of the women and family.
I have good and confidential attitudes with the parents. My
father's name Aleksandr, a name of my mother Katia. I have sister
Tatyana. I have failures in searches necessary men here. Also in our
man do not wish to become husbands, they prefer to walk and much to
drink. Certainly, here there are many men, but the majority of them,
have one purpose - only sex. I search for more serious attitudes,
probably therefore, I do attempt to search for love and tenderness far
from here. I have some experience in attitudes, but now I am lonely.
Please Johnny?, inform frankly, for what attitudes you search. If you
have no purposeIf you have no purpose serious the attitude, but only
sex and an entertainment, that to us is better to stop our
acquaintance. I very quickly get used to people and the poet to me it
is very sick, when attitudes are broken off. I very sensitive person
and me it is easy to injure. Please Johnny?, closely read my words and
write sincere the answer. With impatience I wait for your messages.
hello, I am pretty russian girl, bored tonight.
would you like to chat with me and see my pics?
if so then email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
email@example.com from Ukraine
This woman is the most dangerous gold-digger I ever met...my personal rating for her is 100% most dangerous!
Her name is Polina, and I requested a meeting with her after seeing her on www.army-of-brides.com, ID 23073. After she examined my profile, she wanted to meet me on Sunday, March 11, 2007, while I was in Odessa. I met her translator Tanya first in front of a MacDonalds in northern Odessa. Polina arrived a few minutes late, and she received a gift that I had for her. We then soon left and went holding each other's arms to one cafe, but due to poorer selection of food she didn't prefer, we sought a different place to eat. While on the way, we spotted bumper cars and rode them for a while, as she acted like she was enjoying herself very much.
We then went to another Ukrainian-style restaurant, where I bought all three of us an expensive dinner. We spent 3 1/2 hours plus at this restaurant, sharing what I thought was our mutual heart thoughts and dreams for our lives, laughing, smiling and looking deeply into each other's eyes, all what I thought were our most amazing similar goals and dreams for our lives.
I asked her if she wanted to meet me again and she said yes...we could meet the coming Tuesday or Wednesday, but she would have to check to see when she had free time. We then afterward left the restaurant, walking hand in hand talking about our future relationship together and about spending more time together ahead.
The translator Tanya and I originally met at 5pm and actually had a 5 1/3 hour total time meeting. We ended up walking for a few minutes after finishing at the restaurant, but unfortunately I was short about $20 dollars cash on me when the translator gave me her $90 charge for 6 hours time, 40 minute overcharge, that she never refunded me. I as do not carry more than $150 dollars now on me now, due to an earlier robbery in Kiev. We were 5-10 minutes from my friend's place I was staying and I got the balance Tanya claimed that I owed her without myself running the calculations.
Polina and I continued to smile and laugh, looking into each other's eyes, holding each other's hands. Polina mentioned that her bus didn't apparently run after 10pm to her home, so I told her I wanted her to arrive safely home and got her a taxi. I kissed Polina good-bye till we would supposedly meet each again during her free time in a couple days. Then Polina and Tanya got into the taxi and left.
Then I called the translator Tanya back Monday evening to make arrangement for Polina and myself to meet again either Tuesday or Wednesday. Tanya said she would call Polina, and after a little while I called Tanya back. She said Polina did not want to meet with me again...final answer. I had a second translator call Polina and it confirmed that she had only wanted gifts and a free expensive meal...not serious relations like she had acted the whole evening with me!!!
Polina is the most dangerous and purest definition of the worst kind of gold-digger!!! Polina actually met me, but she already knew she had no intention of having any continuing serious relations with me...
Again, all she needed and wanted was an expensive free dinner and gifts.
Warning: Do not meet Polina!!!
She is the most dangerous kind of gold-digger, as she will only pretend she wants serious relationship with you, but in the end she will only fleece you!!!
anonymous from United States
Another scammer, I think so ! never sent her any thing, she'll reply to the below email. She is fun to play around with.
Hi my XXXX!
Every day I thank the God that I found you in this crazy world!!!
I never tired to say you XXXX that I love you all my heart and I'm
this beautiful day when we'll be together and can speak hug and kiss.
be the best holiday in my life. I want you in my life Will I want to
down to sleep with you and wake up with you Will and everyday. I want
to be yours!
Today all the day I think only of you. I today am bad to sleep and to
think of it.
I dream both I dream and I dream. It is impossible to present as I
You for a hand also I shall tell to you these three words. My heart is
much frequently when I think of it. I cried from pleasures that we have
each other. I truly love you and want to be with you, it's my dream now
it's realizable. This day comes nearer, I feel it and I think you feel
I have gently kissed you, you felt it?
My XXXX, from what you've told me about yourself I admire you very
I to can't wait to hold you to know how you feel in my embrace. To sit
down face to face and talk to get to know each other even better.
To hold your hand and to begin the walk. To share our cultures and
explore new ones together. Soon we shall be joined and be able to
express these things with more than words. You have affected me in so
many ways. But even then, words cannot explain or truly express how
I feel for you sometimes... I await the joy of seeing you and putting
mind at rest. To relieve the pain of loneliness and missing you in my
I await the day at the airport where I can embrace and kiss you.
Our hearts feel this way with that longing for each other being so far
I think when we look in each others eyes and meet with our souls it
tell us and unlock all answers we are looking for!!!!
Soon we will be together and it will be wonderful.
Today we again a long time talked with my aunt. As I already spoke you,
she bad goes, and the most part of time to be in a bed. In the
I for a long time sit at her bed and we speak about all. I confessed
write the man from the other country. And very soon we shall meet.
The aunt was very glad for us, and spoke you 'Hello'.
I again could not receive money. Probably will be better, if you resend
Write to me the new information of money. Remember I should know, an
name of the sender of money. Correct MTCN. The exact and full address
sender of money. You should send money for my name Nataliya
check up correctness of spelling.
Hi my XXXX!
I went to buy a ticket today, but I faced a problem. I have only 200
the rest of money is on my credit card. It’s about 4500 euros. But
don’t service foreign credit cards. My card is not accepted at the
airport as well.
I can’t by a ticket with no cash and come to you. I was confused and
about banking system in Russia. I have money on my credit card but I
can’t use it
anywhere in Russia. I’ve never had much cash with me, I’ve always
paid with my credit card.
But Russia is old-fashioned country in this sphere. People don’t use
credit cards here
but cash. It’s like Stone Age!!! I know your country is a developed
credit cards are easily accepted throughout the country. Probably you
can help me
in this situation? Could you send me some money? I will give all your
money back as
soon as I come to you. I need 500 dollars. If you have this money and
if you want us to meet.
Please send this money by 1 March. I don’t ask you to give me money,
I ask you to
lend it to me for some time. As soon as I come to you, we’ll find an
cash dispenser (ATM)
and I will give you everything to the last cent. I hope for your
understanding and help.
The flight information:
Cost of the air ticket 705,57 American dollars, start from Moscow on 5
2:00 pm Depart Moscow (SVO) Air France 1645
Arrive New York (JFK) 9:00 pm Air France 8
You can send it through Western Union. Western Union has website,called
Probably it will help you with the greater information on it.
Please go to western union and send money for Nataliya Ryzhinskaja,
TO GET THE MONEY, I SHOULD TELL THE EMPLOYEE OF WESTERN UNION:
1 your full name
2 your full address
3 exact amount money
4 confidential numbers (Money Transfer Control Number),
which will be given to you, when you send the money.
Without this information, I shall be not capable to receive money.
anonymous from Italy
THIS is a scammer.............
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--- Anna <email@example.com> ha scritto:
> Hello the my dear friend Paolo I am again very glad
> to see your letter. And Today day at me began very
> well. I have woken up with very good mood because
> saw very beautiful dream. I saw as I flied between
> and it was so pleasantly. After I have risen I have
> had a drink I expect and have decided to tidy up at
> and the ambassador have gone to walk along the
> street and further in park. We in Elabuga have very
> park. Certainly he not big but very much there is
> pleasant to me. And after has taken a walk, has
> decided to
> go in the Internet of cafe and to write to you the
> letter. And today I wanted you to acquaint with the
> parents. I shall send to you a photo of my parents
> and I as with them beside and I hope that you will
> like my
> parents. It is a photo have made in new year. It is
> our vestibule a room where we remove footwear and we
> up a coat or jackets. We gathered in the evening in
> cafe with parents to turn grey and note new year in
> circle of family. And the ambassador we have visited
> friends of my father. It was very interesting and
> good have spent.
> Slightly want to tell about our city. A population
> approximately 67 thousand. As in downtown there is
> N.A.Durovoj's tomb, 1812. but you certainly her
> probably do not know the heroine of Domestic war but
> in our
> city of her very well know. As our city to be on the
> river Kama, it is very big river. And our city not
> from the big city of Kazan. Distance between our
> cities approximately 215 kilometers. As our republic
> is very
> rich petroleum. And on this it is a lot of filling
> stations for machines and fuel not so expensive I
> hope you
> of me understand. But everything else it is very
> expensive: these are products, home appliances and
> else. But me very much to like to live here in our
> city. But if the opportunity will leave somewhere I
> necessarily I shall leave. As at us it is a lot of
> myths about our city and I want to tell to you one
> This myth about the River Kama. Nearby to a present
> mouth of Kama its former channel which name old Kama
> kept. She there is no time bore the waters in
> parallel to Volga. There is the fantastic legend
> explaining why
> the river has changed the channel. Speak, as if in
> that place where old Kama begins, once the guy for a
> time has sunk. Mother of him was a witch. In
> inconsolable mountain and anger on the river which
> has taken away
> the son, with spells and damnations she has thrown
> to Kama heated a frying pan. Because of it Kama also
> changed the channel: has broken off the strip of the
> ground separating her from Volga, and has directed
> current directly to its cool waters. And the bottom
> part of Kama was dried up because of spells scold.
> myth. But now I was time me also shall wait your
> fine letters. Up to fast the my dear friend. Anna!!!
firstname.lastname@example.org from San Antonio in Texas, United States
I had 'interest' on LoveAccess.com from this cute 28 year old. Her profile said she was in Phoenix, AZ. There were some typos and grammatical mistakes in her profile.
I am very grateful to you, that you have answered my letter. I think,
that your letter started new attitudes in our life, it - is doubtless
so. I want to tell at once to you I live not in the USA. I live in
Russia. I badly understand in a computer and I asked the girl that she
did this questionnaire for me. She has made it but this questionnaire
has many mistakes: there I from the USA am written that. I tried to
clean these mistakes but I could not make it. I have no any children,
but I very much love children, therefore I work as the teacher in an
elementary school, for me my pleasure of work, I like to lift children
and to be with them a free time. I love good music under which it is
possible to dance in pair, I like to read novels of love, with my
school friends with whom we held good relations, to play billiards in
free days. To me of 28 years my date of a birth October, 2, 1978, I
live in city Volzhsk, it is in the center of Russia, my city, not so
big, but it is very beautiful, in it many beautiful places. My
favourite color green because it is pleasant to me when it becomes the
covered green birches in ours, frames them very much, it very
beautifully in the spring. Two my girlfriends married and have left
for Europe, therefore I have decided to get acquainted on the
Internet. In me the friend whom I very much loved, was, it was for me
the best person, but we have left, and the incomes of a life observing
something, but till now I could not find the person who could become
my close friend so much free men from women in Russia have the bad
attitude to the woman, and it - the big obstacle for presence the
friend. This fact also has mentioned my decision to write to the
Internet. I with impatience wait for your letter. I send you my photos
and I hope that you love it. I wish to see your photos! Your friend
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Nice pics, same girl as the one in her LoveAccess pic (black top with white letters) This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Elmira Surkova from Volzhsk Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
has anyone else got an email from this girl from Kazan Russia? is she a scammer?