Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2013-10-20, 16:08:32
anonymous from United Kingdom  
could i have an opinion if this photo is fake please , getting abit short on ideas now to see if she ie real or not ? X-Rocket-Received: from [10.100.1.12] (?????548@91.67.70.208 with )
by smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2013 09:19:26 +0000 UTC
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:19:05 -0500
From: ??????548@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Home
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2013-10-20, 18:23:19   (updated: 2013-10-20, 18:25:20)
DOC from United States  
@UK, She's a FAKE! Using German IP + The Bat! + Look at the straight line on left hand fingers..... clearly photoshopped!

X-Rocket-Received: from [10.100.1.12] (?????548@91.67.70.208 with )
by smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2013 09:19:26 +0000 UTC
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:19:05 -0500
From: ??????548@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Home
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Originating IP: 91.67.70.208
Originating ISP: Kabel Deutschland
City: Dannstadt-schauernheim
Country of Origin: Germany




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2013-10-20, 18:35:25
OJAS from United States  
Thanks DOC for the enlargement clearly showing pixelation.
2013-10-21, 12:55:14
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Thank you Doc ... Suspicions were building up all the time as it got nearer and nearer to her coming over here , she had just asked for a moneygram order because she has no bank acc ..thankyou again
2013-10-21, 16:12:56
OJAS from United States  
UK, please read http://dailymail.co..le-542276

There's no "she" at the other end!
Post scammer email addy, Sender IP trace. Off hand, if the 91 octet you posted will trace to Yoshkar-Ola, you got the scammer capital of the world!
Post all the pix, also the money letter.
2013-10-25, 11:15:21   (updated: 2013-10-25, 11:16:54)
Glenn from Potomac, United States  
This woman hit me up on my Yahoo E-Mail. First said that she was 31 Years old, sent me a picture and asked me to respond. So being the person that I am, I did and sent a photo of myself. Well I waited three days and I finally got a responce. Funny thing though, it was as though she forgot who she sent and E-Mail too and instead of being 31 now she says she is 34. Her story the second time was almost like the first but, changed things around a tad bit. Same was, dad was a drunk and left her and her mom when she was 12. Had a boyfriend of 10 years never married but, boyfriend was a very heavy drinker and abusive. Hopes that I am not that way and, wants to know everything about me. Going to attach one of the photos she sent me and, anyone that has seen or had contact with her please let me know.
Many Thanks,
Glenn



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2013-10-25, 12:10:06
Miss Marple from United States  
Thanks Glenn,post full name and emailaddress this scammer is using here ,yes she is reported before ...check the links ...please post the mail she sent you and also the IP ,the IP you will find in the header ,open up the header and post it here ,delete your own emailaddress from the header when posting material onto this site ,if you do not know how to open up a header please let me know .

Dating scammer Elena Igorjevna with emailaddress:iwaityoumylovee@yahoo.com

http://www.romances..6&t=44018
http://www.anti-sca..434000.htm


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2013-10-25, 12:11:07
Miss Marple from United States  
Dating scammer Elena Igorjevna with emailaddress:iwaityoumylovee@yahoo.com

http://russian-dete..oocom.html


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2013-10-25, 13:51:57
Glenn from Potomac, United States  
galynna2013@yahoo.com
Ms. Marple, this is the email address I have for her. I am on my cell phone so, I can not go and get her IP address. I am not able to get on my PC because it is in my rec-room and I have blown my knee out and waiting to get operated on. So until I can go down stairs, I will for sure keep the info and send to you all. Once again you all are doing an outstanding job.
2013-10-25, 13:57:36
Glenn from Potomac, United States  
galynna2013@yahoo.com
Ms. Marple, this is the email address I have for her. I am on my cell phone so, I can not go and get her IP address. I am not able to get on my PC because it is in my rec-room and I have blown my knee out and waiting to get operated on. So until I can go down stairs, I will for sure keep the info and send to you all. Once again you all are doing an outstanding job.
2013-10-25, 14:39:32
OJAS from United States  
Sorry Glenn about your injury in addition to a scammer. Wish you a speedy recovery. In the mean time if a newbie is interested, send a bait mail to that email addy, and trace the IP.
2013-10-25, 19:13:53
Glenn from Potomac, United States  
Ojas, Thanks!!!! and do not worry I shall do just that if someone asks me.
2013-10-26, 04:38:34
anonymous  
hey.
da mir schreiben leichter fällt als reden fange ich mal an..
ich habe bei einigen Single Börsen ein profil gehabt.
die waren auch kostenlos!
ich habe mich doch vor 3 Wochen mit dem einen Mädel getroffen.
wir haben uns zwar gut verstanden aber das war es auch schon..
egal.
vor nem Monat hat mich dann die elena angeschrieben.
die ist russin und 30j.
einmal verheiratet und geschieden.. keine Kinder.
wohnt in cheremchovo in irkutsk etwa 7500km von hier. da ist es jetzt 7std später als bei uns.
ratet mal was ihr Beruf ist.
sie ist Zahnärztin. die sucht nach jemand im Ausland weil sie gerne ein neues Leben anfangen will und sie keinen russen mehr will.
heiraten will sie nicht und ich habe ihr auch deutlich gesagt das ich kein Geld hab.
und keine Arbeit Auto usw.
das ich hier auch fast nur daheim bin. ihr ist das egal und ich habe ihr ein paar Bilder geschickt.
sie hat klar gesagt das sie weder Geld braucht noch sonst was und die scheint mich echt zu mögen.
mit jeder mail hat sie mir 3-4 Fotos geschickt auch von ihrer Arbeit und Eltern sowie deren Bauernhof und ihre cousinen. und noch Urlaubsbilder aus Ägypten.
die hat nun echt vor hier zu mir zu kommen!
und das schon bald.
sie würde gerne 2 Wochen bei mir bleiben und dann wieder heim fliegen.
ich hab da mal geguckt..
das ticket kostet um die 550-600€.
die fährt fast 2std zum Flughafen und muss mind 1 mal in Moskau umsteigen.
Flug dauert 11-13std!
und die will das auf sich nehmen nur um bei mir zu sein.
sie weis auch das ich schon ewig alleine bin.
ich halte es net für nen Schwindel und ich glaube ihr.
sie sagt sie hat seit 7j ihr Diplom und damit kann sie in englisch sprachigen Ländern als Zahnärztin arbeiten.
und sie will unbedingt hier arbeiten wenn sie vielleicht hier zu mir zieht. aber sie will selbst erst mal zu mir kommen und auch mich mit zu ihren Eltern mitnehmen..
ich hab mich schon verknallt in die kleine!
die raucht net und trinkt net und hat nie Drogen genommen.
und die ist halt genau mein Typ.
ich hab ihre Adresse und die ist echt.
und die Frauen hier in der Umgebung sind mir nix. oder die haben zu hohe Ansprüche.
wenn die Frau also sogar bereit ist hier her zu kommen und alles selbst bezahlt dann noch so gut aussieht und total schöne mails an mich schreibt dann rede ich auch auf englisch mit ihr!
das ist mir lieber als so ne falsche Schlange.
die Sache ist die..
wenn dann kann sie anfang November Urlaub bekommen.
im Dezember muss sie wieder arbeiten und sie arbeitet in ner privat Klinik mit mehreren Ärzten.
sie verdient nicht viel dort im Vergleich zu Deutschland.
selbst ihren arbeitskollegen hat sie gesagt das sie vielleicht in einem Jahr auswandern will.
die wollen ihr helfen hier was zu finden.
was kann mir im schlimmsten Fall passieren?
ich muss kein Geld überweisen damit sie kommt..
bei mir is nix zu holen und ich werde auch nicht heiraten.
das weis sie auch.
also was hat sie davon wenn es nichts ernst gemeintes wäre..
darum denke ich das Schicksal meint es bestimmt gut mit mir..
wenn ihr jetzt sagt das geht nicht das sie hier 2 Wochen bei mir schläft dann hab ich halt Pech gehabt.
also so wie die aussieht würde ich die net mehr hergeben!
das weis ich.
glaube die hat sich in mich verliebt!
soll ich sie kommen lassen oder wird sie mich verarschen?

2013-11-11, 23:07:32
anonymous from United States  
anyone herd of this woman named anna from tula,russia?
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Anna Ogannisyan



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2013-11-12, 00:38:20
anonymous  
Use the link below to find pics and email from Anna >>

Romance Scam • Anna - ania.avroc@poczta.onet.pl

www.romancescam.com › ... › Russian scammers‎

Hello! After my brook-up with Tatyana Lave, page 13, I have a new one! :lol: In the first e-mail the sender was anna.avrrova@yahoo.com but it ...







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