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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-06-05, 03:59:15
anonymous from Spain  
Hello My Friends!

I need help, I communicate with girl from Ghana, her name is Patricia, e-mail miipat@hotmail.com. She wants to come to Spain and needs the money. I don't know, she is scammer or no... I hope she is no, but if her photos already there are on this web site, please inform me.


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2008-06-05, 05:24:45
anonymous from United Kingdom  
a great site guys/girls, having had this experience only last week it si so unfortunate that people feel the need to do this!!! so any one reading this watch out for, Sevila Alekberova from Cheboksary Russian Federation, e-mail alekberova2008@gmail.com, she started e-mailing 2 weeks ago and you guessed it declared her undying love by the 4th e-mail!!!!! by 5th she requested money for a visa, the sure and simple awy of avoiding this type of scam is to always offer an alternative to the scamer, e.g. offer to visit them in there country or meet elsewhere, i guarantee they will either not respond or keep on trying with same request! good luck
2008-06-05, 06:32:21
anonymous from United States  
I am in the middle of getting the Anna Ryseva scam. As of now she suppose to be traveling to Moscow. Should I inform the athorities or just send the nasty reply.
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Various dating scammers
Dating scammer Ekaterina Rozhentsova



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2008-06-05, 06:32:22
anonymous from United States  
I am in the middle of getting the Anna Ryseva scam. As of now she suppose to be traveling to Moscow. Should I inform the athorities or just send the nasty reply.
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Dating scammer Ekaterina Rozhentsova



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2008-06-05, 08:30:55
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-06-05, 08:39:44
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-06-05, 09:23:38
OJAS from United States  
Anon US 2008-06-05, 06:32:21, http://www.delphifa..101#85615

Anon Spain, There are no model-looking white girls in Ghana
2008-06-06, 01:34:55
anonymous from Singapore  
Dr Ms.C.tHIS SITE IS wonderful.I learned a lot. Now I am very careful as many has written to me and I am corresponding with one now. I am an Australian living overseas. I have businesses in Melbourne, Singapore and Indonesia and I travel a lot to China, Vietnam elsewhere. I am in my late 40s and need to find someone who are trustworthy and honest and sincere and your site has openned my eyes. Thanks again and keep up the good work and God bless U.kENNETH
2008-06-06, 03:35:45
OJAS from United States  
Kenneth, newbie mates Aussie Tour http://www.delphifa..?p=0#72710
2008-06-06, 04:58:53
anonymous from United States  
2008-06-06, 09:11:41
OJAS from United States  
Some American seems to have peed on a scammer's face, hit this scammer back, if you still find him above my post. Thanks all. http://www.delphifa..?p=0#93366
2008-06-06, 09:49:08
Tony from United States  
Got it done OJAS. Check out the pictures I did!
2008-06-06, 10:33:50
999MoreEvil from Australia  
Every bodies friend is at it again in unsolicited emails
goes by the name of Anna this time
email address gizatulli@gmail.com Photo below will pay a visit from messenger and photo of her mother later

cheers to all
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Dating scammer Angelica Semenova from Cheboksary, Russia
Dating scammer Osai Williams from Ghana
Dating scammer Angelica Semenova from Cheboksary, Russia



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2008-06-06, 10:35:17
999MoreEvil from Australia  
the other photo that came with the email


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2008-06-06, 10:40:34   (updated: 2008-06-06, 10:56:18)
999MoreEvil from Australia  
Another unsolicited email was receive with same photo but from different forged emails but same reply email address Lubimaya.Girl@gmail.com
Photo Below cheers all


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