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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-05-24, 03:20:47
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Hi. Great site, I am here to see if some girl in Ghana is who she said she is. I put her name in Google and found so many conflicting items ranging from drowning in Va to being a clerical assistant in Accra, and one instance she was caught in a hotel room with 4 pimps having a two at a time gangbang, I think it is time to bid her farewell as now she is after money probably to treat her aids problem.

Regards
Dave
2008-05-24, 08:55:21   (updated: 2008-05-24, 09:01:04)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-05-24, 12:09:29
beachnut662003@yahoo.com from Birmingham, United States  
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Thanks Derrick I have talked to a Russian girl a couple of times and checked her email out on google per your advice and you guessed it she was on the blacklist so you saved me alot of emailing.
2008-05-24, 22:20:57
anonymous  
this chick has been wrighting me for month now ..if i new she was posted on this site i would have cut it off long ago
2008-05-24, 23:23:30   (updated: 2008-05-24, 23:28:34)
tony.andraws@gmail.com  
this photo contact me with same letter by name maria from e.mail womanofspring@gmail.com
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Dating scammer Tatiana Sheglova from Kirov, Russia
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2008-05-25, 01:21:07
999MoreEvil from Australia  
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to concerned
watch your back and take out insurance if you don't have already
you will be burgled or robbed in the not too distant future
by her friends locally
call me paranoid or cautious

cheers keep up the good work sorry I have been to busy to make any real contribution to this site lately
2008-05-25, 07:26:17   (updated: 2008-05-25, 07:27:39)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-05-26, 06:55:50   (updated: 2008-05-26, 07:00:16)
999MoreEvil from Australia  
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hi all just a heads up on what can happen with your photos you post to scammers
it is not me but you never know where mine or your photos will turn up
this arrived unsolicited in my gmail account
From: Sebastian Alderro <sebastianalderro@gmail.com>
Date: 2008/5/23
Subject: hello
To:


Hello,

I am very glad that I have an opportunity to answer you.
I was on business trip for my work and could not write to you.
If all of you still whom have not met that write to me your answer.

My name is Sebastian , I'm 41 years old, 183 cm, slim, brown hair, brown eyes,
divorced and out of Sydney Australia

In my free time, I like to go into cinema, dancing, travelling, with friends
into the beer garden in summer, in winter to ski and like very much digital
photography.

I'm a very humorous, honest, faithful, straight and also good and warm
hearted person.

My father was working as a doctor and my mother as a business woman. Both
are not pensioner.

I also have two younger sisters. The oldest one is handicapped, because that
the live into a home for such people and also work there.
My younger sister is working as a doctor and living with her husband in
Flensburg.

I work as the economic adviser for the big company
Which makes a van for the lorry

I'm looking here now for my soul mate and a lifelong partnership with a
honest, faithful and also cute woman whom I can support and who also will
support me in good times like also in bad times.

With this mail I send you a picture of me and hope you will like it.

It would be nice if you can send me a photo of you and also if you will
write a little bit about you.

For now I close and hope to read from you s.
-
Sebastian

__________________________________
Sebastastian Alderro Sydney Australia
sebastianalderro@gmail.com

Cheers
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Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Dating scammer Anastasiya from Medvedevo
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia



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2008-05-26, 07:02:36
999MoreEvil from Australia  
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the other photo
the scammer has been cross pollinated with with 2 other unsolicited female photo scammers
cheers
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Dating scammer Anastasiya from Medvedevo
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia



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2008-05-26, 07:08:38   (updated: 2008-05-26, 07:34:45)
999MoreEvil from Australia  
the female photo scammer
email address natnay555@gmail.com and wait theres more natnay666@gmail.com
I got these photos plus long email after I sent messenger with a photo of your mother to the above addresses from my hot mail account
proves they don't read the emails as OJAS Dirk and Tony states and all who have contributed
cheers keep up the good work
photos as below
2008-05-26, 07:12:16
999MoreEvil from Australia  
other photo of Natalia


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2008-05-26, 07:14:28
999MoreEvil from Australia  
looking good Natalia


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2008-05-26, 07:18:11
999MoreEvil from Australia  
Yet another photo of Natalia same rain coat


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2008-05-26, 07:21:04
999MoreEvil from Australia  
last of Natalia in her rain coat


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2008-05-26, 09:04:35
Tony from United States  
999MoreEvil from Australia

I have been dealing with Sebastian Alderro for a short time now. He;s written me two letters. May hear more from him. Hope so. Got a big finish planned when it comes time.
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