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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.

Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.


    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.

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2008-05-21, 14:28:10
OJAS from United States  
The e-mail is now a good target for messenger, mailbomb, etc. Anastasiya Romanova is posting here http://www.delphifa..4#comments
2008-05-21, 18:15:53
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Anon from USA (previous page),

Good question! There is always doubt. You are corresponding with her for 6 months? And she never asked for money? Some scammers are very patient with their victims. But, 6 months? She may be real!!! Did you consider visiting her? That would convince her mother too. You don't need to send a phone. Nokia floaded the Russian market. Everybody (especially girls who are dating) has one.

Here you have the info on the USA-Embassy in Moscow. You can ask them for detailed info (and/or help):

American Embassy in Moscow, Russia
Embassy of the United States of America in Moscow, Russian Federation
Consular Section
American Embassy
19/23 Novinskiy Bulvar
123242, Moscow Russia
Phone: 1-405-552-7300

The Embassy of the United States of America in Moscow and its constituent posts in St. Petersburg, Vladivostok, and Yekaterinburg provide a range of services to American citizens in Russia.The basic services offered at all consular offices are the same; this site focuses, however, on the US Embassy in Moscow. Please keep in mind that any information we provide about services offered by the Russian government or other organizations is subject to change without notice. The American Citizen Services Unit (telephone 7-095-728-5577 ) is open Monday through Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m., except on Russian and American legal holidays. In the event of an emergency, American citizens may telephone 7-095-728-5577 anytime from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday through Friday. After 6:00 p.m., please call the Embassy duty officer at 7-095-728-5990 . Please note that passport, notarial, and other fees are payable in dollars, rubles, or U.S. dollar travelers checks.


2008-05-21, 18:58:50
telephone of the American Citizen Services Unit is 7-495-728-5577 (not 7-095-728-5577)... Moscow's phone area code changes from 095 to 495 two years ago.
2008-05-21, 19:17:33
Hi Guys! Who knows Looveth from Lagos, Nigeria? Her profile I think she is scammer.

2008-05-21, 19:18:15
other pic

2008-05-21, 19:25:22   (updated: 2008-05-21, 20:01:36)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Totally Anon,

Thanks for correcting the phonenumber. Wonder why your Embassy gives old info?! Anyway, I hope we were of help to the other Anon.



13 January 2006

Please note - Russian area codes change- Moscow telephone area code has been changed from (095) to (495)

On December 1st, all area codes starting with '0' were replaced with an initial '4.'

Moscow's '099' and '095' were converted to '499' and '495,' respectively.

The transition to the new area codes will make it possible for the Russian telephone network to introduce a simpler dialing sequence for long-distance and international calls, replacing the initial '8' and '8-10' that Russian callers need to dial with '0' and '00'.

2008-05-22, 10:56:01
OJAS from United States  
Scammers can be harassed actively in may ways

Peter favors http://www.delphifa..p=2#73286
999MoreEvil favors http://www.delphifa..173#87437
Henric favors http://www.delphifa..p=4#91108

They can also be harassed passively http://www.delphifa..180#90250

To any of your friends contacted by a scammer e-mail this link Http://

Ask them to spread scammer watch http://www.delphifa..?p=5#71283
2008-05-23, 15:42:51
anonymous from France  
new picture from marina

2008-05-23, 15:43:23
anonymous from France  

2008-05-23, 21:14:00
anonymous from United States  
Here are some emails that Nataliya Borisva has been circulating around to numerous American men! Becareful boyz I almost fell for it too!

My darling!!!

Please, don't be shocked with what you will read now.
I was scared myself when I understood it yesterday. I was
thinking of what was going on with me. Every morning I get
up with the thought of you and every evening I go to bed
with the thoughts of you. There is some kind of chemistry
in the air. I can't live without your letters. I got used to
you so much. All I need now is to get a letter from you, to
know that you are well and you are thinking of me too. I can't
do anything, I can't concentrate. I go to work and it is a
torture for me as I can't really do anything, talk to anybody.
All I do is thinking of you. I think I am in love with you.
I know what you think now. I am scared myself as it is unusual
for me too. But I will die if you tell me you don't need me
any more. I would give everything in the life just to be with
you right now, to see your wonderful and kind eyes, to
understand that you feel the same. Every part of my body aches
for you.
I am mad at myself. This shouldn't happen to me. At least
I shouldn't tell this to you. This is wrong. But what can
I do. I can't just stand aside. I need you to understand me.
Baby, perhaps, you don't feel the same about me.
But I feel that you have something for me too. If you don't,
I will understand.
But I want you to know that I long for you. My love will be
enough for two. I know I can make you happy. I will be the best
friend for you, lover and a wife if you only allow me.
I am so much scared that you will not allow me to love you.
But you should know this feeling will always be in me as you
have captured the biggest part of my heart. And this will last
forever, I know. I have never felt this before especially to the
person I have never seen in real life. And I will be happy only
if you say that you feel just a little of what I do for me.
Please, take your time and write me. I will be counting minutes
till the time I hear from you.
Miss you badly.

Nataliya Borisova
Here is some of my pics

How are you today?
I was waiting for your letter so much. I hope you already
know how much they mean for me and how I wait for them.
Unfortunately, I can't concentrate today. I could sleep yesterday
and had been crying the half of the night. I felt very lonely.
I feel better today. Please, don't worry.
Next time I will try to be stronger and keep myself in hands.
May be I am just too tired. I have to work some extra hours.
My salary is rather small, it is only about $200 if to convert
it in american dollars. $200 - It month.My colleague is sick
and she is at home. That's why I need to do her work too.
I wished to call her, but unfortunately I do not have phone...
I do massages instead of her. And you know it is rather difficult.
Also it is necessary to be very patient. And you know people are
different. Someone are very thankful to you for your help.
And others think that should do everything they want. They
can't understand I maybe tired too. I dream of a desert
island. Sun, blue sky, warm water and you near me. Isn't it
a wonderful dream. And nobody there, only you and me.
Well, enough of my dreaming...
Tell me something nice, please. Make me feel good. If I was
there I would make you a massage with an oil to make you rest.
You deserve. And you would pay me for it with a sweet kiss.
Dear, I want to thank you for being in my life, for giving
me an opportunity to share my feelings with you. You can't
imagine what a relief it is and how important it is for me.
I appreciate your moral support very much. I feel it between
the lines of your letters.
Please, be careful for me. I want to see your other letter
very much. And to feel your warmth.
I send you my sweet kiss for free too.

P.S. Sorry, but I have forgotten to bring today a photo with
myself in Internet cafe. I will attach it in the next letter.

Nataliya Borisova
Here is some of my pics

My darling,

What can I say? I feel shame and upset. But that is life.
I can't make you believe and trust me. And I can understand it also.
I can't change anything here except one thing...
You know how I love you and I need to see you by all means. I want to prove you and myself that it is real.
I want to make you believe in me.
I will try to find money. Don't worry about this any more.
I just can't lose you . I don't want to give up and I will not.
I have friends and I will ask them to borrow me money.
I will try the way to give them money back later. I am ready to have three jobs to find money.
I will do everything just to be with you.
The only thing I really need to know that you still need me in your life.
I want to break this distance between us. I want to love you, to take care of you.
You are the man I love and every wall on my way will be broken with my love.
Just write me and tell me that you still want me in your life.
Missing you....

Nataliya Borisova
Here is some of my pics

Hi my darling!!!

You are so sweet. Thank you very much for your very nice letter.
Do you know what? I am going to tell you one thing now. Promise that you are not
going to laugh at me, please….
I feel shame telling you my dream. But it happened and it was so real.
Ok, here we go.
Imagine… dark room, you are sitting on the sofa having cocktail. Suddenly you
see a flash in the middle of the room. You see a chair in the middle, dark red
walls and a slim woman in the black suit and in the black hat. You can't see her
face but you feel that you know this woman very well. She has a red lipstick on
her lips and a long cigarette. She is smoking and it looks so sexy. Then she
starts dancing. She slowly takes her clothes away till the moment when she has
little fluffy pants on her. She still has her hat on. She is dancing slowly and
then faster and faster. Her naked body is so sensual. She comes close but you
still can't see her face. It is very dark inside and there is only a candle
light. She sits on your knee and starts kissing you. Her hands are very tender,
you feel them everywhere on your body and your desire gets stronger with every
Then you feel yourself inside of her and your body and hers is one whole.
You lay down being very weak, relaxed and satisfied. She takes her hat away and
you see me.
My lips are red from your kisses. You see my eyes and my lips and feel that you
want me again and again. And our night of passion continues….
Writing this I feel that I am already very excited. I want to be close to you so
much. This is only my dream. But I want it so much to come true.
I love you.
And miss you badly.

P.S I was told you that I don't smoke and drink :-) It's just a

Nataliya Borisova
Here is some of my pics

My darling,

I am doing the best for us as I want you to be happy. And I want to be happy
myself too.
Everything is done. I have money not only for tickets but for visa too.
What do you feel now? I am very -very much excited and happy. I will be able to
see you at last. I can't believe in it myself. I will pay for visa but it will
take some time to get it. As soon as I get it I will let you know. All we need
now is to wait.
I will stay at your place for 10 or more days not to disturb you. But if you
ever ask me to stay for longer, I will do it with pleasure. You will make me the
happiest woman in the world.
It is up to you. I hope you will not be disappointed. I will do everything I can
to make you love me as I do.
I will give you all of myself. I will give you all my love and passion. All my
care and tenderness.
I will treat you the best way. You deserve it. I know.
You are my life and everything. Never forget about it, please.
I need you badly.
Miss you.
Send you my hot kisses.

Nataliya Borisova
Here is some of my pics

My darling!!!
I will never stop telling you how I love you.
By the way, what is love in your opinion?
In my opinion, love is devotion. It is a feeling when you give all yourself to your partner. When you feel that he is sad or unhappy een being on a distance. And it hurts you when you know about this and you try to do everything you can to make him happy. Faithfulness is also very important. I can’t live with a person if he betrays me even once. And I will never do the same to my partner.
Mutual understanding is also a key to healthy relations. When you feel that something is wrong , you should talk about it.
It is necessary to discuss problems but not keep silence.
I hope We already understand each other very well though we haven’t met in real. And I am sure that when we meet, we will do all we can to keep our relations strong.
I always dreamt to have a strong family. The place where I can come and feel that my family love and understand me.
I hope you understand what I try to tell you.
Please, tell me your thoughts about it.
Till our next meeting.
Love you.....

Nataliya Borisova
Here is some of my pics

Guys I hope that's enough examples for you on how these woman try to scam with their emails. Be careful out there it's a JUNGLE OUT THERE!

Peace Brothers!
2008-05-24, 02:08:29
anonymous from Netherlands  

I see familiar photo's, only an other name, in my case she calls herself Ludmila.
She didn't answer my letter, but send her own story instead... that was the reason to look for her on the internet. I looked up the name of the dog.... :-)

I put her text hereafter.....


letter from Ludmila
Hi ______ It's Ludmila. We have got dating with
you on RussianEuro, remember? You have very much
interested me, and I would like to know about you
more! By the way, this is my e-mail
I think to both of us interestingly to know about
each other more. I'm start first …

I have never been married and I don't have
children. Though to me 35 years, but I don't
regret about that that till now was not in a
marriage and I have no children. I think, that at
me still ahead!
I very sociable woman, have many good friends. I
constantly to radiate the optimism on everyone who
to be around of me.
I send you some my photos to share the smile and
fine mood! By the way I have dog, by name Kuzya.
He is a boy.

It's for certain interesting to you, that the
woman in the future half wishes to see, therefore
it will be pleasant for you and useful to know a
little about the man of ' my dream '...
To me is interesting the man which searches for
serious relations. For me is necessary man with
which I would feel myself the happiest woman in
the world. It's important for me, to have mutual
understanding, trust and the responsibility! I
think, that the Internet is very good way for
dating. I think, that it should be romantic, have
the friend or even more in other country.

I think for the beginning, we could become friends
what you will tell? In fact strong relations in
love, should be based in strong relations in
I think, you are solidary with me in it...
Ok, I'll stop today. I need to have time to
prepare some papers for work.
I wait for your letter,

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2008-05-24, 02:09:52
anonymous from Netherlands  

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2008-05-24, 02:10:42
anonymous from Netherlands  

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2008-05-24, 02:12:17
anonymous from Netherlands  
the we-walk picture is the last one i send. I saw other posting the kuzya picture....

very much success with stopping this fraud.

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2008-05-24, 02:25:25
anonymous from Netherlands  

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