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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.
Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief
SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:
The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).
Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/ and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!
More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!
So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .
'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.
girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.
girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.
scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.
photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!
most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.
GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.
very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)
writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).
falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.
uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.
MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.
She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.
There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.
Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.
There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.
Anyone heard of this guy = William Allen. Met him on Lavalife. Of course he is a survey engineer. We have been talking to a few weeks and, surprise, surprise, he left for two weeks in Ghana today. He claims to have a dog, Couch and a daughter Jenn who is university. I am very suspicious after stumbling upon this website.
wanwan from Japan
I am sorry to you and special thanks to you .
I had put URL on here and it is dead !
I forgot checking that URL was active or dead .
Ummmmh,my mistake !
OJAS from United States
No probs, wanwan
It is the delphi structure that prevents lengthy URLs. I had to work very hard to post some of my search results, as links, which would be lengthy to trim them. With Cyrillic string search, it is even harder to post!
Please listen to, Me.
You are hooked up with a scammer.
William Allen is just a fake name made up by the scammer.
Because of being Liable, I cannot word this the way, I want to.
Lava Life in, My opinion is filled with scammers.
Prove that to yourself by checking this site alone.
Your scammer used another victims stolen Identity and e mail address
to open the account, You were contacted through.
The scammer has been in Ghana the whole time.
The type of scam being used on, You is one of the most common ones.
I could not begin to count how many Woman have been contacted by
some Engineer that suddenly goes to West Africa.
Ghana, Nigeria, Dakar, Senegal, Refugee Camp, Church Organization,
Benin Republic, Gold Coast, Ivory Coast, All of West Africa.
In most cases concerning Woman it usually is from Nigeria first, Ghana
second. Same thing 100% scammers.
Your guy is not a White Man ? You did not say ?
Your Guy is a Young Black Man that is working out of the scamming
Factory there. There are Thousands of scammers and they do not get busted.
Nigeria is the Worlds second most Corrupt Government.
I'm not sure, Who would be # 1 ahead of them ?
Ghana just might because at least Nigeria has a law code that does nothing for
the most part Ghana is just wide open to scammers.
The name is fake, The address is one of dozens that the scammer uses.
Trying to trace a IP is useless in most cases.
The photo is stolen of course from another victim or even a model.
There is no daughter never has been as the entire story is a Fairy Tale.
None of it exists in the real World.
I am sorry to have to be the one to tell, You these things.
But truth is, You should get off the Internet until, You learn all, You
can about scams and scammers. Your in greater Danger than, You
could ever imagine. Sadly most people are victims by the time they come here.
You should know that if anyone no matter if they are Black or White,
Man or Woman, Police or anything else. If your ever contacted for any
reason from West Africa its a scam. The second, You see anything from
West Africa at all its 100% scammers.
If, You think, Your not being scammed then, I truly feel sorry for, You.
Chasing made up ID and stolen photo's depends on someone else having reported it ahead of You.
If it never has been reported because the scammer just made it up.
Then, Your stuck with a scammer.
You must act now because the next thing if, You haven't already received it is.
The sudden Emergency William Allen is going to have.
A accident or His daughter gets sick or killed or He gets hurt or robbed.
It doesn't matter what the Emergency is because it is only the excuse
given to take, Your money.
Your feelings have been manipulated by a Young Black Guy who most
likely doesn't even know English at all.
They work off scripts handed to them by their boss.
They work for a cut of what they can get from their victims.
Many woman stay hooked up to their scammers after they know the truth.
Do not become one of those. A scammer when confronted with the truth has a
answer for everything. Remember they lie for a living and will use God Himself
if they have to in order to scam, You.
Scammers do not give up especially with Woman.
Do not take this personally but the scammer only thinks of this a game.
Your feelings mean nothing to, Him.
He believes, He is entitled to steal, Your money.
You won't lose anything as, He believes, You will get it back from, Your Government.
They destroy peoples lives every day some of which commit suicide.
Please read this article that, I will give, You a link to from the LA Times.
Get what ever fantasy out of, Your head now about this scammer.
Also please look at the [ Male Dating Scammers (500) ] section on this site.
Click on that link at the top of this page on the left.
Once there look at the Josh Kelly Thread, and Thomas Mends thread.
There are many stories, You can learn from.
Also please make, Your postings in the future there also.
You just might find, Your scammer posted there.
Either by the photo, You have there is a picture search feature on every page
just about that, You can use to compare, Your photo against.
Please post everyrthing, You can all the details, You can the better.
Never Post, Your e mail address on this site as scammers are here watching
Never tell a scammer about this site.
If, You make the mistake of confronting a scammer with the truth.
All, You will get is more lies. Good Luck With That.
You may threatened by, Him but do not worry a baby kitten is more Dangerous
than that idiot. There's nothing more funny than listing to a Mad scammer
throwing a fit. LOL Fallow this link to hear a scammer blowing up
at, His victim. In this case the Victim scammed the scammer.
The scammer arrived at a airport only to find, He had been tricked. LOL
Well, I have given, You a lot to think about.
I Pray, You will stop all communication with this thief now.
Do not allow any form of contact to continue. NONE
You can believe what, I am telling, You or keep being scammed.
If, You keep being scammed, You may end up broken Hearted and Homeless
just like, Me. I will leave a light on for, You in, My Motor Home.
Your welcome to stay here rather than on the streets.
I have nothing to gain by trying to help, You.
You have literally everything to lose.
Really enjoyed the mugu version of Grande Finale ''mugu don sharpen up''.
When you refuse money some scammers
b) send virus / trojans
I plan to post some examples later. But these are of special interest. Whenever any of you finds these, post their email addy in the blacklisted thread, with a notation - aggressive Boris / mugu / male scammer / lottery. It will help the next stage of processing, thanks all. http://www.delphifa..=31#169020
Here is a link made by Nigerians.
Thats the claim anyway.
Do not be mislead by the title of it.
There are no laughs about this video.
It is a must watch for anyone who is serious about scams
coming out of Nigeria. It is and, I cannot stress this enough NOT
for the faint of heart. If, Your very sensitive this video is not for, You.
This video is shock therapy.
While the topic is not scammers it gives the clearest insight as to why
they scam others.
It also gives a lot of detail about what they believe in Nigeria.
Its very long nearly 10 minutes.
It makes it very clear also why they have no objections to stealing
from anyone. It claims Nigeria has the 2 nd most corrupt Country on the Planet.
If they are the second after watching the video, I never want to see who is # 1
Many will see this and say oh those poor people.
Please read everything before even trying to say oh those poor people.
This is a big dose of reality.
Now if, You think, You know what is going on in Nigeria think again.
Again don't watch this if, You can't handle the truth.
You have been warned.
As, You see this covers everything from Religion to using Woman.
It should have been titled the real Nigeria.
Have you seen or heard about email@example.com, this one shows and says she lives in my city, even gave me sorrect zipcode. but now she says shes in europe buying paintings......yeah right.......how about Krr/Krisa/Kristina firstname.lastname@example.org, or how about Tatyana/Guzel at email@example.com, how about firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org these are some that have tried communicating with me.
email@example.com from India
Anyone seen false Homeland Security ID cards?
Any examples. One was scanned to me, looks legit but not sure what one looks like.
Hello there. I have a 'relationship' with I guy I met online back in April. after 9 emails he professes his love for me and that I am his soul mate.
His name is Eric Maxwell claiming to be from Germany but living in London working as a marine engineer. He claims to have property in Dubai U.A.E, and just found out that his caretaker left him owing many years back taxes on the place and he called me asking for money( I did say no I have nothing to give.) He has wrote me 2 poems which have been cut and pasted from a love poem site
His emails IP all are from Malaysia( I checked) he has a moblie line 00447031829270 saying that it is his only line which shows to be a personal line that shows he is calling from the UK but can be anywhere. I have pictures.
If anyone knows who this is really please let me know.
[hidden] from United States
Have you been scammed through match.com? LOOK?
firstname.lastname@example.org aka John Mclean <-----SCAMMER...... RUN!!!!!!!
SCAMMER BEWARE: Man from match.com - calling himself John Mclean using these emails: email@example.com and his new one: firstname.lastname@example.org . He says he is in UK (London) and he is finishing a construction site, and then he is retiring. He LOVES to travel, and wants to be someone's wife. (yeh right) He targets his next victim in the US and especially if you are a widow. DO NOT give this man any of your information or let him see you on webcam. He will not show you his at all... ever. He has every excuse, and rarely answers questions asked to him.
He makes wedding vows on the phone and email. He claims he has a son named Jake... and suddenly got into a car accident. (He is such a liar and scammer). He asked for money .... that 'You are the only one I can turn to Darling (uses that word DARLING every moment).... blah blah blah.'
He will send you a copy of his million pounds he is going to receive after he is done with the job, and then he will come and live with you, and you will live happily ever after.. (YEH...sure)
Oh yeh, he lost his wallet too. (WHATEVER!) Thank God, I didn't send him any money, but BEWARE... he is very crafty (like satan) and everything will sound perfect and romantic. It's a line of crap and do not fall for it. Research every email given to you and if you can't meet the person locally, don't waste your time.
He was suppose to come on Tuesday, but then suddenly said he would not be able to come, unless he came up with the money... because he had to pay taxes on the 'funds' he was getting and if he could somehow find a way here... we together could come up with a way to pay the taxes.
Every word was a line of crap. So many people say they would never send money like that. You would if you were emotionally invested and you thought you were somehow helping out your future spouse in a way he couldn't help himself.
Scammers make an average of 2.1 million dollars a year. Don't give them your money.. unless you want to contribute to them ripping people off. Do not tell him he is on the scammers list either, he can just make up a new yahoo mail in a minute, and off to wreck other helpless women's lives. Be safe out there!
Picture of John McClean used for scamming people on Match.com....... BEWARE
email@example.com (had this email for a year in Sept. 2009)
firstname.lastname@example.org (newest email in Sept 2009)
When finding out that his other email is on the scam alert Fraud sites, he 'changed' it!!!!
anonymous from Canada
HELLO I MET THIS GUY ON A SITE CALLED ITALIANPEOPLEMEET, WE CHATTED BUTHEN AFTER A ABOUT 2 WEEKS HE GOT VERY EMOITIONAL AND TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH HE LOVED ME AND WANTED TO MARRY ME. I TOLDHIM U ARE MOVING TOOOOOOO FAST AND THEN HE SAID HE WOULD COME TO CANADA TO MEET ME, I TOLD HIM LETS JUST CHAT AND THEN HE BOOKED HIS 'FLIGHT' BUT WHEN I TOLD HIM NOT TO COME HE GOT ALL PISSY WITH ME AND SAID HE NEEDED MONEY FIRST HE NEEDED $1350.00 THEN $800.00 THEN $400.00 BUT HE SAID IF I COULD SEND HIM $300.00 TO COVER THE COST OF CHANGING HIS FLIGHT AS I HAD HURT HIM BY NOT LETTING HIM COME TO CANADA. THEN THE NEXT DAY HE AND I CHATTED AND I SAID LETS NOT RUSH LETS JUST CHAT THEN HE TOLD ME THIS STORY THAT HIS COMMANDER (HE WAS IN THE MARINES) OR SO HE SAID AND THAT HIS COMMANDER WAS WANTING MONEY BECAUSE HE WAS CHATTING WITH ME ONLINE AND HE WOULD NOT GET HIS TICKET TO HIM UNTIL HE PAID HIM $10.000.00 ALL HE NEEDED WAS $7000.00 THEN HE SAID HIS COMMANDER WOULD CALL MY CELL PHONE AND I WAS GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND I SHOULD GO TO MY NEAREST POLICE STATION . THEN HE CALLED MY HOUSE SCARED MY SON HALF TO DEATH AND THEN I NEVER HEARD NOTHING BACK FROM HIM AT ALL. HE IS STILL IN THE SITE ANDI HAVE INFORMED THEM OF HIS WAYS. HIS NAME IS CAPTIAN DANIEL SCOTT GIDDEN OF THE MARINES WHO WAS IN JAPAN BUT THEN WAS ON BUSINESS IN NIGERIA GETTING A BIG CONTRACT FOR SOME WORK BACK IN THE USA. I DONT HAVE A PIC OF HIM BUT HE PROB IS DOING THIS TO MORE WOMAN AND DESTROYING THEIR LIVES WITH SCARE TACTICS HE AND THIS OTHER MARINE COMMANDER ARE USING. SO SAD THIS MAN HAS TO DO THIS BUT I WANT TO WARN OTHER WOMAN AND MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN BY THIS MAN ALSO. I DID CALL THE POLICE IN THE CITY I LIVE IN AND THEY LAUGHED AND SAID IF EVERYONE WHO CHATTED ONLINE WERE TO BE ARRESTED THE POLICE STATION WOULD BE FULL.
[hidden] from Tyler, United States
looking for a person says to send money to vicky locksworth works for a hospital patients name is jennifer catalina rodrigo was in a car accident
anonymous from Netherlands
In 1 April , a woman having looked my profile and she was very intrerested me , at this website www.tagged.com/dating she looked at real and sincere with pictures of her , and send to me her email : Iloveeeeeeu@yahoo.com I emailed her through her email, she promply replaid to me , over the 3 month we talked daily , she sounded me very nice and friendly , and we became what I thought involved in a romantic way , she told me her name Marina Vasilyeva about 27 - 28 years old , and live in centeral town of Yoshkar-Ola - Russia , she a few years ago, graduated from college . Faculty Marketing and PR advertising. After college , she works as manager working on the computer in an advertising campaign ( company ) .
and told me she don't like russian men because she suffered from her ex-boy friend! and most russian men not respect for thier women... . and after about three month of correspondence, we thought and belive that meeting is very necessary for us , and see each other , and we decided to meet in Lebanon - Beirut and to stay with my family for 6 weeks ( 42 days ) because she got permission from her work 2 months for vacation , and after she went to travel agency and she told me to visit you will cost
$ 670 , but my salary is $ 200 all the money spent on utilities food , closing, assistance to parents, than I sent to her $ 670 by westernunion , and when she bought the ticket and booked on 30 september , and she phoned me in this number telphone : 0074956600200 and later she want more money for 42 days insurence each day Euro 29 x 42 days = total euro 1218 = about
$ 1900 ! . I said to her this is very big money !!!! I said to her I will phone the embassy Lebanese in Moscow to get information about the insurance travel in Lebanon , and than she didn't emaild me more last message it was 14 sep.2009!!
I thought it was all fraud and she is a scammer woman !
later I knew what is this number 0074956600200 after I checked in through google ,
Dear Sir, in my country in Lebanon I knew many women wives of my friends and whose I met them ,they are very respectfull and good people , and always I wish to marry from good lady from Russia as like them ,
but let me to say about those who give bad things and foto for thier country ! why ? only to steal money from poor and good poeple whose sending for good things! and they saled thier conscience and hearts and thier humantly.
But for me I a possative man, and I love Russia for ever ,,,
I have all of the westernunion wire transfer , date of transfer 28/08/2009 control number 2948787323 pay Marina Vasilyeva . and foto of the ticket flight ( Aeroflot )booked
Hassan Aboul Joud
anonymous from United States
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFO ON THIS GIRL FROM GHANA?