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Name: Aleksenceva Tatjana


Country : Russia
City: Moscow
Address: Krasnogvardeyskaya 15 kor.4 - 193
postal code (zip) : 117303

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Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:11:07 +0400
Jeff, hello again!!! I was glad to recieve one more reply from you and I
thank you for that!!!! I reread my letter to you and found a mistake.
When I said I will come in the middle of June, I made mistake!!!
I am sorry for that. I will come in second half of August, this year, which
means I will come very soon. I said about June because when i wrote you
my first letter I had a great mix-up in my head, actually in June I had
a lot of paperwork preparation for this trip. Once again, I am sorry about the
You know what? I hope I will be able to come to your area by my
birthday and we shall meet each other!!! This time I will tell
more about myself because if we want to meet each other,
we need to get to know better, I would even say as much as possible.
Well, you already know that my first name is Tatjana.
My last name is Aleksenceva. I am 27 years old and I hope I am not that
young for you? My birthday is on 25 August, I will be 28 years old.
I'm 168 cm tall (5.6.) and 51 kg
weight (about 120 pounds , I'm not sure how much it is in pound but I'm

not fat which you can see from my photos!).

I don't know exactly my bust-waist-hips measurements, I

don't have a reason to measure it because I think it's OK and my body

is proportionate )) I like sports and I take care of my body.

I do aerobics a few times a week and go to a swimming pool.

I live in a three-room appartment with my parents, older sister and niece.

My older sister is 31 years old and she is divorced because her

husband cheated her. She has got a wonderful girl of four years.

I have them on my photos. I adore my niece!!! And I love kids!!!!

The name of the city I live in is Gubaha. It is located not far from

Perm city. Gubaha is rather small city unlike Perm which

is the main city in our region.

I wonder have you ever heard of the river Kama? Well, it flows in

Perm and it is considered to be very very beautiful and the water is ecologically clear!

My education: I graduated from Perm Humanitarian University

two years ago, the dance faculty. Yes, we have such faculty in

Humanitarian University! Well, I am a professional dancer!

I adore dancings but I don't want to have a

dancer's career because I will have not much time for my private

life and for relationship with a man. So, I work as a dance teacher

and right now I teach kids from 12 to 17 years!

I love kids and I like teaching. I have a certificate of fitness instructor

and dance teacher!!! I am happy that I have this profession and

I think it is a good profession for a woman since I am always moving,

keep myself in a good shape and at the same time I am not so busy!

Do you dance? If not, I can teach you! I dance many different styles. I think

when I come to your city I will work as a waitress in a restaurant.

I would like to work as a dance teacher but as you understand I cannot

arrange such kind of work being in Russia because they will need to see the level of my dancing.

Anyway I will try to find this kind of work when I come over there. Or maybe

not a dancer but aerobic( fitness) instructor, I think it's also very good job.

In winter I like skiing, although we have cold winters... our summers

are warm usually.

Mom is much younger then my father and they are very happy together. My

mother is a teacher of music at school. I can play piano also, she

tought me to play piano. I finished music school and I still play

piano about once a week. My father is retired engineer.

I cannot say I enjoy one particular type of music. It might sound strange for you but

I can listen to almost everything. The list is endless actually. But anyway,

there are a couple of things I have always enjoyed to listen to.

They are Enigma and Deep Forest. I adore their music. It is so sensual and

helps relax a lot. I also like classic music, jazz, rock, lounge.

I want to try how to ride a motorcycle someday! I've never tried it!

By the way, do you have an International Airport in your city?

Please write me the name and the code of it.

Or write me the name of the nearest airport to you.

I write you my emails from Internet cafe, I don't have my own computer.

If you want I can call you when I'm in Moscow , it would be nice to

talk to you. I will be really happy to call you from Moscow . Now I'm

not at home often and if you call me my father will pick up the phone

and he can't speak any English and he will be shocked to hear the

English speech. I didn't tell him about you but I'm going to

tell him this week-end, I will write you about his thoughts on this topic!

I suppose in few days already I will leave for Moscow and start my trip!

There is no any messenger in this Cafe so we can only keep emailing

each other. I hope you are not getting bored to read my emails?

My address here is:


Permskaja Region


Zagubashka street 35, flat 13.

So now you know who I am....

I just can tell you that I enjoy life and I try to live to the

fullest, I like to try new things. I'm not that smart.. I was not that

good in mathematics, physics, biology and so on! But I'm very tender,


artistic, faithful, decent person.

Sometimes I can be not well organized, I think everybody had his own

minuses and pluses.

I don't look for any special qualities in a man. I just hope he will be

faithful to me and ready to create a happy family with me and I will

do everything to make him happy. I'm looking for a soulmate!

OK... it's time to finish my email. I'm sending a kiss by the wind to

you and if I sent it to the right destination you should receive it by

evening )))) I hope you will catch my kiss somehow )))

By for now!!!



PS. Oh, yes I forgot to add few things...

My mind is always in a mess when I write you because

it's hard to write everything to somebody who is so far away.

I've never been married, I don't have

kids but I love them and they love me! I wrote you I teach children

how to dance and I know how to understand their wishes and worries.

I don't smoke, drink occasionally.

And I want to tell you that I always wanted to find an older man.

Why? I have two answers..

First, I think older men are much more serious and they can take

care of me, they are more experienced in life and can teach me many

things. 'The older the violin, the sweeter the music' I believe in


I think I'm not that young already but I

don't have much experience in life and I want to have someone who has

more experience in life then me.

Second... maybe I'm not right about it... but I want to be honest

I've always had such worry... if I marry a man nearly my age...

and after some years I will become not that young and beautiful... I

think it's more hard for a woman to be attractive then for a man...

and he will find a younger mistress and I will become very miserable.

I don't want my man to be unfaithful. I know I can be faithful to my

man and I will never cheat on him.

But this is just my worries. This is not my goal. Please tell me if

you think you will love your woman at any age and not find a younger

one? Can you be faithful?

I think it's better to forget about one's age, age is just a number.

I became attracted to you and I

really want to meet you. If you will not like me or something else we

can be just friends.

I hope I will get my work visa soon in Moscow and all documents and

come to you! I don't have any area limits with this visa so I can work

where I want on the territory of the USA.

And one more thing.. I'm sending a few pics of me, my sister and one of the photos

was taken in the cave near the city Sochi.

I'm just trying to be honest with you and write you all my thoughts on

different issues. Please be always honest with me also....

I think I will write you tomorrow, I will see if I have more nice photos to send


Kisses to you and have a good day!!!!




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2007-08-14, 15:34:10
'S' from United States  
How about a 'money letter'? A full header too ! That and other pic's were posted here a month or so back,don't know if the same name and addy were used though.

2007-08-21, 10:29:39 from United States  
this Bitch also goes by she just tried to sam my best friend and used different pics and even sent him a copy of her passport. if you would like more on this date scam whore contact me at
2007-08-23, 22:58:23
anonymous from United States  
do not belive this bitch!!!!!!

2007-08-29, 16:57:42
anonymous from United States  
2007-08-30, 12:43:59   (updated: 2007-08-30, 12:56:07)
anonymous from United States  

You can add this to the list of names and email addresses. I have an almost identical
note to the one above. This is the contact info sent to me.

Ljudmila Derewskowa

My address here is:
Permskaja Region
Zagubashka street 35, flat 13

2007-08-30, 20:28:06
anonymous from United States  
I cant beleive it, she is scamming me right now. What does she want ? Money? how is she a scammer?

2007-08-30, 22:50:05
anonymous from United States  
She is also scamming me right now. But I am having fun scamming the scammer by asking if she needs more money to help her family out, told her I bought her a car to drive while she is out here and so on---.This Bitch needs to be cought and I am trying to get some help from http://www.uaprofil..p?id=2304. She has a couple differant names on that site as well.
Svetlana Butakova
Aleksenceva, Tatyana
and the name she uses with me is Nadezhda Tkachewa.

2007-08-31, 16:25:02
Eddie from Sweden  
guys, guys!!...I know you're frustated and all, but you should have figured out by now that you haven't been corresponding with a girl at all, so there's not point in ranting and raving about 'bitches' and 'whores'. You've really been writing to a sleazy guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshtar Ola, Mari-El Republic or thereabouts, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops, ie about 90% of Russian dating scammers are guys. We call them by the collective name 'Boris'. The photos are very often stolen from the internet and they buy, sell or swap them amongst themselves. The girls are nearly all innocent victims. They use a female accomplice for the pick-up at Western Union or to call you if you get suspicious.

so for any newbies on the thread, here are a few dating scam signals. If several or more of these apply, then you're corresponding with a Boris. Keep your money in your wallet. If you really want to help out, you can bait the scammer and waste his time, so he doesn't scam some other guy not as lucky as you.

# 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :). Plus if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!
# girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls.
# girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, etc). Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first!
# scammers rarely have children, but all the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did.
# photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important in Russia.
# most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes easy to recognise (overuse?). A serious girl who's looking for a partner, would save up and go to a professional to have a photo set done, and/or borrow a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore.
# girl claims not to have a mobile phone. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her. On the other hand, not having a landline or a computer is quite common.
# very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish copy)
# writes everyday in English (how does she have time if she's working? + most Russians can hardly speak a word of English). Anyway, what's the point of finding a girl if you can't communicate with her, at least on a basic level?
# doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter)
# falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego or loneliness pull the wool over your eyes. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows.
# uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam. If she uses gmail, be suspicious too cos you won't be able to trace the IP. Hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger, otherwise why does she have a non-cyrillic email account?

MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:
# wants money for a 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, but IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY! She can get a sponsored visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. All of these she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait 10 working days. USA and Canada is almost as complicated. Anyway, a normal tourist visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Be realistic. should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.

There are a few scammers that are more patient and professional. There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers. One or two (mostly in the Ukraine) are not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot.

But a ground rule is: if you are looking for a Russian wife, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. and if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know, you should try ot be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls waiting out there!

2007-09-01, 07:15:57
OJAS from United States  
Newbies on this thread,

A scammer is the one who SENDS you the pic. Not the one who IS in the pic, except in rare cases.

A scammer is the one who HIDES behind a server. Not all the RESIDENTS of the city or country where the server is based.

Accept such distinctions when you excercise your first amendment rights.

Save all your rage, adjectives, expletives for the scammers, all the scammers, and nothing but the scammers.

Good Luck!
2007-09-03, 08:32:00   (updated: 2007-09-03, 08:45:33)
anonymous from United States  
Yes, this exact identity is trying to scam me. Received the exact letter

Ljudmila Derewskowa

My address here is:
Permskaja Region
Zagubashka street 35, flat 13

I will be messing with this scammer for a while......
2007-09-05, 11:11:09
from Bethlehem, United States  
as soon as she asked for money the red flag went up!!! i put here name in google and that's how i found out abouther. i'm not an idiot.....why would you send someone money that you don't even know? especialy out of the country!!!

any man that does is an idiot or desperate!!! this is probably not even here picture!!! we all got the same email's.if any of you guy's sent money your idiots.only took 3 emails for me to figure her out. from monroe ga,

here is her picture?
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Keywords: blonde girl black top teddy bear bed stuffed animal
2007-09-05, 11:21:44
anonymous from Bethlehem, United States  
monroe ga, she also goes by the email

also when i found out about her........i emailed her and told her to type her name in google, and let me know her thoughts!!! i will never here from her again.she also emailed me a copy of her pass port. here is another picture.
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Keywords: two girls black coat at night
2007-09-05, 11:55:11
anonymous from North Las Vegas, United States  
The HE/SHE is also using I just recieved this letter today. I have also recieved all the same pics. And empty 'form' letters from this scammer. She is using the name Ljudmila Derevskowa. Do not believe what this person is saying. I also attached a pic of the passport this individual is using.

TRAVEL INF0 'PARUS TOUR LTD' AGENCY client : Miss DerevskoLjudmila
--------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This reservation will be automatically cancelled if the ticket is not purchased until 7 September 2007, Friday.
Travel dates for: Miss Derevskowa Ljudmila
Reservation code: 5VDCFE
Please label the inside and outside of each piece of baggage to be checked in with your name and where possible your address.
Suitable baggage labels and stickers are available free of charge. In advance of your journey,
please note the current free baggage allowance included in your ticket price.

In case you booked a special fare please note that it can be subject to restrictions.
Should you have further questions please contact your travel agency.
H1-B Visa, work.
Travel Abroad: When preparing to travel abroad for less than 6 months, it is important to ensure entry to another country and reentry
to the U.S. Depending on the country to be visited and the visitor's nationality, it may be necessary to apply for a visitor visa.
In order to return to the US, a traveler must have: a valid international passport or travel document, valid visa (H category-working)
and an DS-2019.
Furthermore, page 4 of the DS-2019 must be signed by the RO.
Travel to Canada, Mexico or adjacent islands other than Cuba for less than 30 days, does not require a valid visa in some cases.
Travel Within the U.S.: No special permission is needed, but it is important to have a valid passport, DS-2019 and I-94.

Thank you for your booking and have a pleasant journey.

Kind regards,'Parus Tour Ltd' Travel Agency
129465 , Moscow, Timyryazeva 54.

Please use our service .Managers Mr.Pavel Bobrikow, Ms.JulVasilevitch
------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------
Departing flight 8 September 2007, Saturday

Departure: 14:40 Moscow, Russia - Sheremetyevo Intl, terminal 2
Arrival: 16:50 Los Angeles, USA - Los Angeles International, terminal 4
Airline: Aeroflot SU321 e Aircraft: Boeing 767-300/300ER
Departure: 19:14 Los Angeles, USA - Los Angeles International, terminal 5
Arrival: 20:24 Las Vegas, USA - Mccarran International, terminal 1
Airline: Delta Air Lines DL711 e Aircraft: Boeing 737-800

Return flight 6 December 2007, Thursday
Departure: 16:55 Las Vegas, USA - Mccarran International
Arrival: 12:45 +1 day(s) Frankfurt, Germany - Frankfurt International
Airline: Condor DE4083 e Aircraft: Boeing 767-300/300ER
Departure: 14:05 Frankfurt, Germany - Frankfurt International, terminal 1
Arrival: 19:25 Moscow, Russia - Sheremetyevo Intl, terminal 2
Airline: Aeroflot SU106 e Aircraft: Airbus Industrie A320-100/200

Price: USD 1290.00 + Round trip tickets.Eco.clas
----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jay hello,this is the info I have got from agency and I think I have the problem. and it seems to me I need your help because I must
get this flight and nearest possible flight for me only in the first part of September and I hate to imagine if something goes wrong, I have done too much to lose all now. I know it sounds like I am pooroutsider
but you see I have not time or somebody to ask about help and I have nobody to help me, you know my relatives gave me all that we could collect for my travel. I hate to ask but now I don't have any other choice. I booked the tickets but I can pass my interview
only when I pay for my tickets, I didn't know about it. I ca receive my visa only after I pay my tickets so they want to be sure I have a roundtrip tickets so I am not going to stay there illegally. I think their rules are too strict...
The problem is that everything is getting more exspensive. Oh, I forgot to tell you that the date of my return flight can be changed.
I promise that I will return all the money I borrow as soon as I can. I will get salary and collect the sum you lend me, it is only money ,and I think that it is not too hard for you to help me. You see I have such chance only once in my life. I know you are kind man and I do hope you will be able to help me.
I was in the bank to try to ask them about credit but they tell I have to have something to leave them and I have nothing to leave because I have only some clothes, some parfume and it is all I have, and small gift for you from russia with love People in the bank gave me an advise that if I have good friend (I told them about my problems and you ) that you may send me money very fast,
they tell that there is the system western union and it works very fast,
I am not sure I know how it works but they tell you need only my name and address here in moscow and
I have to have only passport to get it in any bank of Moscow and only I can get the money when you send it,I think it is good way and like I was explained it is very safe and takes a few minutes only.
I have about 300$ yet and I need about 1000$ from your side. I am talking about American dollars. After getting money I will make all payment and I will have an interview, it is a must.

I also have good news!!! They say I can stay longer than three months I can stay about six months for first time.
I will have to change the date of my returning flight only. I also want to say that you don't have to worry if you don't like me or something in my charachter
I will not disturb you. It is only your wish to share your time with me, and money is money, I will return it all to you anyway.
I am sorry for such a cold letter but I am getting crazy to think that you can just don't reply and I will stay here without any result of all my hopes and dreams , and hard work too.

Oh, silly me! I almost forgot to give you my full name and my address here in Moscow ( where I rent a room).
Country : Russia
City: Moscow
Address: Krasnogvardeyskaya 15 kor.4 - 193
postal code (zip) : 117303
Full name: Ljudmila Derevskowa (this is the right writing in English)
You should put this info on their list and send me info when you send me the money.
I will need to know MTCN (money transfer control number) which will be given to you when you send me the money
and your full name.
Well I will finish this letter since I am a little tired and feel not well.
I know that it is hard decision for you because you don't know me well enough,
but dear please help me and you will not sorry of it I promise!!!
Please don't leave me alone in hard minute I will pay the same when we meet!!!
And I will have paper with my and your names when I will be in your airport I don't want to miss you, Jay!!!
Kiss you many times!!!!
With great hope,
Your Ljudmila!!!!
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2007-09-05, 12:46:03
anonymous from United States  
Ditto on everything everyone has wrote. Used this email <>
2007-09-05, 14:59:25
OJAS from United States  
Anon Las Vegas, and next Anon, US

You guys immediately spotted the spam brewing. Good job!

I'll hazard repetion for first-time newbies on H1-B visa

When H1-B visa is sposonsored by an employer, the employer is keen to absorb the employee. In most cases, will happily accept to buy one-way ticket, and deduct in installments from paycheck.

Any ''requirement'' of round-trip for H1-B is PURE bullshit - believe me, no impurities here.

I'm discussing with a professor doing paper-work for a just accepted post-doctral fellow at their university, can't get any more genuine case of H1-B applicant.

How anxious are the employers sponsoring H1-B visas?

Not enough H1-B quotas, is the reason Bill Gates is pissed off, and started building a new facility in Vancouver Canada.

For those who already know this, I do not mean any disrespect, my post is aimed at newbies.
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